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Ealendril der Dunkle:

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Dunedain aren't eite units, they are regular units. Every elven unit is defined as elite. ;)


--- Zitat ---I actually agree with most of what you said, Imladris heroes aren't very useful or have as clear defined roles (compared to other factions)
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Of course they have defined roles, I cant follow you. Arwen is a supporter, Glorfindel tank, Twins heroslayer (one of the best in game), Gildor is a scout, Halbarad is a dunedain supporter and Elrond is a mix between massslayer and tank -> as suggested by our fans.


--- Zitat ---So when Elrond is already one of the tankier heroes in the game with his armour boost he still dies too quick for your liking? I just don't get that, he is supposed to be a mass slayer after all. Being more or less vulnerable to hero killers is basically part of the job description. And units shouldn't catch him anyway, he's got a horse and his flood does knockback...
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+1


--- Zitat ---I personally don't see anything that negative, know-it-all, slightly provocative or harsh in Elendil's response
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+1

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
@Draco: Imladris only has one batallion at the start to stop you from just running over to your enemy and pooping on everything he has - we tried several things during the beta phase and this solution works out really well, I think. I have to say though, I don't think Imladris absolutely needs an outpost early on, I've done quite well without one^^
The amount of archers defending the outpost just make it way too strong defensively and too good overall, so it's never a bad choice really, since it also produces money and can heal.



--- Zitat von: Elite KryPtik am  4. Aug 2016, 02:22 ---As for my above post, that was just me explaining why Sawman got a little heated, because from my perspective while reading Elendil's first reply there were a couple points that seemed off. The biggest one being the "Maybe pay a bit more attention ;)" with the inclusion of the winky face sounds very sassy or "know-it-allish" as I said.

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That certainly wasn't my intention, I put the wink there for that reason: to make it sound not as harsh.

Amandil7:


--- Zitat --- Of course they have defined roles, I cant follow you. Arwen is a supporter, Glorfindel tank, Twins heroslayer (one of the best in game), Gildor is a scout, Halbarad is a dunedain supporter and Elrond is a mix between massslayer and tank -> as suggested by our fans.

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I'm a huge fan too believe me! I actually mean they don't serve as important a role within the faction when compared to others. They're just not as useful for their cost especially when you have tons of upgrades to buy and so they get overlooked. Maybe that is why I feel that way.

I'd rather buy 5 Blademasters than Elrond for e.g and yes I do still think he dies far too quickly! His abilities are good though, though I miss the hero lvl up thing lol

Gildor < Merry/Pippin/Shagrat/Drauglin/Lorien Twins, his abilities are good but he isn't very durable, he gets easily owned by goblin creeps unlike the other scouts that can hold their own.

Arwen needs a better last ability, as has been already stated. She is only useful for her heal as it stands.

Glorfindel is the only hero I make, usually just to take out enemy siege.
Forgive me for saying this, but as an English speaker (and a psychiatrist in training!) I agree with Elite KryPtik. Every time I say something here I feel like I'm attacked or pounced upon. Isn't the whole point of these forums to get feedback? The response is usually so weird that you think twice about even carrying on the conversation (and I'm not talking about Elendil). Just the tone is a little stand-offish sometimes. We all love the mod and are trying to be constructive here. :)

Odysseus:
Most Germans are quite direct usually, they don't beat around the bush. Just keep in mind that the tone of debate employed by the majority of the team and the German users is not intended as denigrating in any form, even if you feel it does. No hard feelings, right?

A debate tends to get people excited more often than not, so do not fear the pouncing nor the assaults, you must never relent :P!

Walküre:

--- Zitat von: Amandil7 am  4. Aug 2016, 23:34 ---Isn't the whole point of these forums to get feedback?

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No, it's not just that. Getting or giving feedback is a part of a more comprehensive sum of many other factors. Not only does the forum ensure people to express themselves, but it also encourages them to debate among each other and to exchange opinions (particularly, when it comes to finding a compromise out of different proposals or polishing existing concepts). In another perspective, these features can also lead to heated discussions or little 'skirmishes' among the very users (something that one could easily see as a harsh and very confrontational climate throughout some threads).

I believe that the latter aspect is eventually as fundamental as the other ones indeed, in order to keep Modding Union alive; the challenge is rather how to control it and turn it into constructive activity, lest everything degenerate in open clashes. Furthermore, instead of weird or bitter replies, I sincerely think that what often causes resentment is the fact that some people find it hard to accept that their suggestions/remarks could be countered by other people and also proven inappropriate for the game (very direct answers that are usually triggered by not so consistent posts, of a similar kind of the initial comment that started this debate). I'm not referring to you specifically, but to the general experience I have had so far as a Moderator.

I'm well aware that this might probably be one of the most difficult characteristics to get acquainted with, but it's nonetheless vital to the forum as well. On a higher level, Administrators and Moderators have in fact the authority to censure people and to reject proposals whenever they deem it necessary (that is, closing topics or delete comments). One can't thus expect every single post to be accepted anyway.

As Odysseus suggested, you shouldn't let criticism (when it's reasonable) constrain your will of participating in debates: getting used to presenting ideas, defending them and wisely replying to other people's responses will toughen you up concretely and it will certainly give you overall much more confidence in regards of your personal forum attendance. Keep also in mind that insults and a manifestly aggressive behaviour are against the rules and so will be dealt with accordingly  :)


--- Zitat von: Odysseus am  5. Aug 2016, 01:27 ---Most Germans are quite direct usually, they don't beat around the bush.

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The English Community has had too its own renowned record in being brutally honest at times and setting up very 'dynamic' discussions  xD

Also, speaking about brutal (but needed) attitudes, I have to remind all of you that we are now clearly diverting too much from the topic of this thread. If anyone is willing to continue to discuss this theme, the Website Feedback board is the proper place (and I would be very pleased to join it too).

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