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Durin's fate in the Edain Mod

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Walküre:

--- Zitat von: dkbluewizard am  7. Jun 2017, 19:54 ---So that is why I suggested Durin returning with Erebor and Erebor only.

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And this option would also spare us the burdensome task and risk of disrupting the current systems of the other two factions, centred on the leaders of the very faction (a quite recent concept). Henceforth, as Blue said, this I deem the best solution. I don't want to interfere or dictate a line to follow, but I would wholeheartedly suggest all of you develop the proposal with the focus on Erebor.

AulëTheSmith:

--- Zitat von: DieWalküre am  7. Jun 2017, 20:55 ---And this option would also spare us the burdensome task and risk of disrupting the current systems of the other two factions, centred on the leaders of the very faction (a quite recent concept). Henceforth, as Blue said, this I deem the best solution. I don't want to interfere or dictate a line to follow, but I would wholeheartedly suggest all of you develop the proposal with the focus on Erebor.

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DieWalkure,Blue, and other fellows.
If you deem Erebor the only one (i agree that is the mightier of the three) then my will is to follow the wishes of the community and to find a common point between our views  :).

dkBlue, your timeline make sense, but still i have not figured out how to implement suitably Durin VII, unless we make him a recruitable hero. Supposing we can do it , your idea is still to channel the spirit of Durin I using the ring as you wrote before? And your view of refusal is the a passage of the ring from grandfather (Dain) to grandson(Durin VII)?

I found a very good model of Durin VII, that is the intepretation of the DVZ mod (one of the archived one in MU). i like it very much:


The complete article where it's coming from is this one:
https://modding-union.com/index.php?topic=28524.0

dkbluewizard:
AuletheSmith: That picture is awesome and I would whole heartily love a new hero for Erebor. If we are going this route and making him the grandson of Dain and a ring hero, then I still feel we should go with the same premise and it can read as thus...

"Should (insert Thorin III son's name here) get the ring he will go on a quest to destroy the ring. (Insert) will channel the spirits of Durin and proclaim himself Durin reborn."

Something like that but I really like the figure you chose, however, I would like him to look more like gamesworkshop's durin model (if possible) but if not I am content with this. Also it might be good to show this model as a difference between Thorin III's son and how he looks once he proclaims himself Durin.

I love the model Aule and I think we should move forward with him as a recruitable hero, if not then we can try to implement the rejection of the ring idea for King Dain II of Erebor.

AulëTheSmith:
That is the depiction of GW your are talking about ?


It seems different from the current style of Edain (the miniature I think is 10 yo or more) but I like it :)
There's no problem for me in a possible introduction of a new hero. The fact is that is not easy because Erebor have a quite complete set talking about the specific roles:

- Dain: unit supporter
- Thorin III: hero killer/tanky
- Gimli : mass slayer
- Gloin : building destroyer/interferer
- Nori : scout

Another idea is to unlock him as a recruitable hero in the citadel in case Dain refuses the ring. More or less what happen when you unlock Sam and Frodo with blessed Galadriel.
In this case at a cost of 3000 you can recruit him as permanent hero, with the abilities (or some of them) and the power of Durin the Deathless.

dkbluewizard:
I agree with this Aule, and yes that was the picture I was talking about, though now that I look at it, I think I like the model you showed previously. What Edain could do to correct this error, Thorin III could be more of a hero killer, while Durin becomes the tank, or vice versa. A lot of people have complained about Thorin III and that might be a good compromise.

However like I said, if this idea is too much for them. Then the refusal of the Ring is the best option, and I think Diewalkure is more in favor of that idea too. So maybe we should go with that. I like the idea of purchasing Durin for 3k I think that is fair.

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