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lordoflinks:
I shall comply a word document of the current ideas that we change as needed for now; but I think we should inquire about creating a fan page on the wiki so it is easy to edit it as needed. I shall inquire.
In terms of rulers of Dorwinion what about a compromise; we set the beginning of the civil war prior to the beginning of the wotr; and have the royal family possess eleven blood. Have the male leader of the cult fraction declare himself a king while keeping the leader of the Court the emperess; that way we have diversity between the fractions rather than two kings. The only problem with Bladorthin is that he dies before the time period we have to use; so if we were to use him as the rebel leader we would need to bend cannon a bit. Other heroes I think we should call others to brainstorm for diversity; such as the Edain team did with the Angamr heroes; whether if it is through a RPG or not is up to you.
In terms of units I feel the units from the academies should be very similar if they are different units to highlight the fact that the two sides are part of the same nation rather than two diffrent nations.
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dkbluewizard:
LordofLinks, what you say is fine. Bladorthin II is not the same as Bladorthin I, he was just a name for the Rebel leader.

As for the ruler of the Court Dorwinions I don't care if it is a Queen or a King. I don't feel we need to set the civil war before the WOTR as I feel that would be un-canonical. During the events of WOTR, Sauron put pressure on all the kingdoms (evidence of this by him offering King Dain II a ring of power). So I feel the need to separate as Sauron presses on the Kingdoms of the West WOULD be implemented at this time.

I do agree that the Court has to be more of an elvish ruling class. Dorwinion IMHO is mostly an elf faction (as evidenced by the books) though it has a melting pot of everything else with it (kinda like Imladris).

The Avari are very numerous, so I am still in favor of your quality proposal, but I don't feel they should be as qualitied up like Imladris, they should be like a Gondor and Lothlorien hybrid.

lordoflinks:
Ah; I did not see the II.
I only mean the war starts a year or so before the beginning of the WotR; just so the sides are more established. I do not mean something like 20 years.
It seems likely the Wiki will allow us to comply fraction concepts on it; so I suggest we wait for that go ahead before doing anything more. 

dkbluewizard:
Sounds good LordofLinks. To further solidify our position on this faction and maybe convince Melkor as well, here is a link that talks about Dorwinion being mostly an elf kingdom and further solidifies our stance of Dorwinion being a melting pot of cultures.

Perfect area for the Blue wizards!

http://middle-earth.xenite.org/2011/10/19/was-dorwinion-an-elf-kingdom/

http://middle-earth.xenite.org/2014/05/02/what-happened-to-the-elves-who-remained-in-the-east/

Read these carefully, it would seem that maybe Numenor did have contact with Rhun...so our discussion of the fortress may not be as far off as we think.

dkbluewizard:
Also LordofLinks, why couldn't the empress be evil? Out of curiosity, what is your bases for having an empress as the leader of Dorwinion? I'm just curious. Let me know when you have that PDF up so we can all take a look at it.

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