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A canonical Gandalf

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Walküre:
I don't think it's possible to have an ability be passive and active at the same time. I guess Lightning Sword already gives the sense of Glamdring's might; apart from that, as I pointed out earlier, his abilities are enough effective and so I wouldn't add anything more in respect of offensive aspects.


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Albeit being lore/film-accurate, I think it would be very out-of-place, were it to be inserted in the actual game.

P.S. I will move this proposal to the Gondor Suggestions board in due time, as that is the proper place.

dkbluewizard:
Diewalkure, that sounds good. However, I do think you can have a passive and active power at the same time, Aragorn when he is crowned king gets Anduriel and it does passive and when clicked on it does a blademaster.

I feel if this simple addition was added to Gandalf while not taking away his lightning sword. I think he would be perfect. He wouldn't be that powerful still anyways. Sauron would still destroy him and so would Saruman.

Gandalf the White however, should be the most dangerous on the battlefield outside of Sauron himself. And I feel Sauron is the best hero in the game (as Edain Wiki suggests) but I do feel Gandalf the White should be number 2. I mean I like the blue wizards obviously, but I know lore wise this is the way things are in the books.

lordoflinks:
Most dangerous with abilities that is, then the Witch-King can come along and break Gandalf's staff with his hour.  :D
To summerise would it be fair to say the conclusions of this thread are thus:
Make wizard blast into a ranged attack and have Narya (Passive)/ Bubble (Active) as the level 1 ability and the Lighting Sword ability into a passive/ active ability as well.
If we were to follow suite with the above I would be favour of switching Mount and the Sword around so the player does not get two active/passive abilities in a row.

dkbluewizard:
Is wizard blast going to be a ranged attack for all wizards or just Gandalf? I don't think Gandalf the Grey's wizard blast should be ranged, but Gandalf the WHITE should have a ranged wizard's blast since that is what he did to Saruman.

Yeah, the WK breaking Gandalf's staff was never in the book. If we were to incorporate all the powers of Gandalf from the book, you would need a system like I originally suggested (which I would still be fine with as I don't think it would change his role. I mean Sauron's role isn't changed).

But to please you guys mainly, I conceded to at least Narya being passive/active, and Glamdring being passive/active. I would agree with this, and I would agree with a long ranged wizard blast for Gandalf the White (It also kinda shows how Gandalf the White wrestled with Sauron at Amon Hen).

lordoflinks:
I meant the WK statement as a joke, but also to point out the more aggressive abilities a hero has they more they become dependant on them for the sake of balance, and as such the WK is a hard counter to one such hero. I do think the moment in the movie was a wonderful scene that heightened suspense, and made Gandalf appear less all powerful. 
I am just trying to figure out a way to have all of Gandalf's abilities on one planetir without the need for 'arrow' abilities.
Perhaps a stance system could be used, that toggles his attack between a wizard blast (Saruman's basic attack) and his sword. Not changing his abilities (He could still use lighting sword in staff mode), but allowing him to alternate between slow wizard blasts that kill a lot of enemies and inflict bonus damage on buildings, or fast sword attacks that deal damage to a single target.
EDIT: I've just seen that DieWalküre has mentioned we can replace the stance slot with Narya, which allows us to keep Wizard Blast as an ability, so that would work best, in my opinion.

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