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New Imladris Spellbook
Gandalf7000:
I like the idea of Sanctuary+White Council. I made the suggestio about implementing the White Council in Imladris as wel so I second this suggestion.
NoldorSithLordsShipwright:
Sanctuaries sound great.
The White Council might be problematic, given how a good deal of its known members (Elrond, Gandalf, Cirdan, Gil-Galad) already being represented in Imladris.
Conceivably, this spell would summon only Saruman, Galadriel, and (perhaps) Radagast. Maybe the Blue Wizards, but that would stretch it, I think. Which, I admit, is still pretty damn powerful.
Given their relatively low number, perhaps on top of influencing how many heroes appear, the number of sanctuaries present increases their timer and/or stats?
Canis carcharothias:
It's a tier 3 spell; summoning those 3 heroes is quite a lot! We have a lot to play with, we don't have to put those three heroes together, we can sort them by strenght.
Also, there were lot's of White Councils, and even more councils that were not treated as "White Councils". One more, at least: the Council of Elrond.
If we take these councils more loosely, we have a lot of options for good (in the moral sense) heroes that can be summoned with this spell, and maybe, if you have all the sanctuaries, you summon the three from the white council (if you want to have Radagast there) xD. Those are just options, variations on a theme.
Walküre:
--- Zitat von: Gandalf7000 am 22. Sep 2017, 14:10 ---I like the idea of Sanctuary+White Council. I made the suggestio about implementing the White Council in Imladris as wel so I second this suggestion.
--- Ende Zitat ---
Many have already proposed a similar suggestion in the past. I reckon the White Council sequence in the films and its lore in the books boast a very charming effect on the community; for people who are totally fond of the White Council motive, and that caters for me equally, there couldn't be a more fashionable and appropriate proposal than this. Alas, this concept has always been flawed from the beginning of the English Community, of which I still have memory. Namely, there are a couple of problems worthy of note.
1. The prime dispute: Rivendell is set in the War of the Ring timeline, leaving aside the happenings of the Hobbit and the meetings of the Wise of Middle-earth.
2. Saruman, one time-chief of the assembly, would not be a serviceable hero for the summoning spell, having become the fallen wizard during LOTR and leading the forces of Isengard for the destruction of Men's world. Excluding him from the spell would be a major loss, for he's a pivotal character in the events narrated in the Hobbit (White Council).
3. We have come to the pure lore: the White Council was not disbanded after Saruman's treason, if I recall correctly, and the renewed Gandalf the White was appointed to be its head. But the council itself didn't play a significant part as an institution, as war was infuriating. Gandalf had to rekindle the resistance of Gondor, Elrond was busy with keeping his domain safe and Galadriel was defending her realm from the assaults of Dol Guldur. The council was not therefore active as it used to be in the erstwhile times.
I just tell you that there is a very unique spell which is to be part of the new spellbook. It deals with a different theme, albeit comprising an innovative motive which is equal to the uniqueness that a hypothetical White Council spell would present.
Canis carcharothias:
Hello there Walk!
I woul not center in the White Council as it is. There have been lots of councils in Imladris, some of them White, some of them not so white, like the meeting with the dwarves and gandalf and the Council of Elrond. I didn't focus on the White council when writing this proposal, the name given to it was a means to recall the similitude between the proposed and the old spell, I might have not done this properly.
With this premise:
1- TIME: Not only we are pretty lax when it comes to sustain some correctness in the time-consistency of spells (Last alliance, Bandobras Tuk, Luthien's Song and even Breeze of Manwë and light of Aman (Those only in the Imladris spellbook)), but also, some meetings were made during the War of the Ring.
2- HERO SELECTION: As explained above, "White Council" is just a badly put name, we could call it "Rivendell council". There have been men, dwarves, elves, Istari and even hobbits in a council in Imladris, so, in this "What if" story that is Edain, we could have another council that could result in the aid of other heroes of any faction (Mirkwood, Erebor, Lothlorien...).
Yes, the final one, with the max number of sanctuaries could be some members of the White Council, but that is just another option of the possible ones.
PD: Can we exhort you to give just a hint of information about this new spell? 8-|
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