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AulëTheSmith:
I'm in Favour about this suggestion. Especially the gem for Thranduil is more suitable. I'd consider ot make him resistant to elemental damage only, it fits even more if we are going to focus him as a monsters slayer too.

Tiberius Ogden:

--- Zitat von: tolgayurdal am  9. Feb 2019, 11:23 ---Maybe Old Ring Hero Radagast's tree (not with summons) with anti poison effect can work. It absorbes nearby poisoned damages and hides units , not necessary to heal units. Also suits for Treebeard's protector role of Fangorn Forest and supports wood elves.

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It's not bad idea and nice recyclation ... am not sure about effects right now (central spell and mist hide units, heal can be casted either way by spellbook spell), but trees in the Lorien are in general very tall, I can imagine that Galadriel gives him some modified seed with special tree.
Yes, resistance to poison for nearby units doesn't sound bad.
Problem is that we don't know how the heart three looks like ...


--- Zitat ---The Central Spell: Elven Wood

Creates a Heart Tree around which a forest grows that hides allies within.
After a while, it also lets them use Ambush of the Wood-Elves even when detected and reduces its cooldown.
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That's why I'm suggesting only regular trees. Something simple.


--- Zitat von: AulëTheSmith am  9. Feb 2019, 11:28 ---the gem for Thranduil is more suitable. I'd consider ot make him resistant to elemental damage only, it fits even more if we are going to focus him as a monsters slayer too.

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No, no, only allied units can receive bonus against those kinds of units. Monster slayer aspect was before unit supporter concept came out - when he was pure mass slayer only.


--- Zitat --- Level 5: Sindarin Armour - Thranduil puts on his battle armour, which gives him +25% to defense. His silver armour inspires nearby units and grants them +35% defense against monsters, heroic, elite and siege units. (Passive ability)
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--- Zitat ---On 15 March, T.A. 3019, Sauron's army from Dol Guldur attacked Mirkwood. There was a long battle under the trees and the woods were set on fire, but in the end Thranduil was victorious.
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In fact I also thought in similar way - about poison solely, especially when "Greenwood is sick", means poisoned, so enchanted gem with resistance to poison was obvious and fitting.
But we don't have proper ingame effect. And if Walkure wants to keep magic bubble, then magic resistance suits only.
Of course - we can search for antipoison ingame FX and move magic bubble to CaH, which was my initial plan.

AulëTheSmith:

--- Zitat von: Tiberius Ogden am  9. Feb 2019, 11:54 ---
No, no, only allied units can receive bonus against those kinds of units. Monster slayer aspect was before unit supporter concept came out - when he was pure mass slayer only.

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My bad, i'm sorry did not re-read the ability  [ugly] Concerning the new Thranduil, i'm gonna leave my feedback in da proper thread :)


--- Zitat von: Tiberius Ogden am  9. Feb 2019, 11:54 ---In fact I also thought in similar way - about poison solely, especially when "Greenwood is sick", means poisoned, so enchanted gem with resistance to poison was obvious and fitting.
But we don't have proper ingame effect. And if Walkure wants to keep magic bubble, then magic resistance suits only.
Of course - we can search for antipoison ingame FX and move magic bubble to CaH, which was my initial plan.

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At least concerning resistance against fire, water, earth ect, the bubble is suitable of course. It is a shield after all, similar to the one of Gandalf. But i agree that is not suitable for poison. To be honest i don't even know if speaking about an "anti-poison" FX makes sense, because we are not speaking about a  shield in that case, rather about a phisical immunity once you are poisoned (i.e the immunity of human body to poison (human-like body, in case of an elf)). In that case would be more suitable to see some FX that works simply like an indicator that tells you that Thranduil is immune to poison during the ability.

Tiberius Ogden:

--- Zitat von: AulëTheSmith am  9. Feb 2019, 15:00 ---At least concerning resistance against fire, water, earth ect, the bubble is suitable of course. It is a shield after all, similar to the one of Gandalf. But i agree that is not suitable for poison. To be honest i don't even know if speaking about an "anti-poison" FX makes sense, because we are not speaking about a  shield in that case, rather about a phisical immunity once you are poisoned (i.e the immunity of human body to poison (human-like body, in case of an elf)). In that case would be more suitable to see some FX that works simply like an indicator that tells you that Thranduil is immune to poison during the ability.

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I would be careful concerning too many resistances, cause it would indicate that he is tank.
We need something simple what connects him to Galadriel and silver gem with simple effect is what we have in the store.
Concerning FX indicator - exactly, I was thinking about green FX, similar to Cirdan's ring FX, but the same visual effect I want for scout lanterns, however silver or gold.

OakenShield224:
Ok I know I posted that I liked the change and I still do (mostly). With Thranduil, I have no problem with the effect of the gift, more so the gift itself. Mainly the fact that Thranduil was never shown to really be one for collecting loads of riches in the same way that someone like Thorin would've done. The only reason he wanted the gems in the Hobbit trilogy (a trilogy that does switch around some character aspects of Bard and Thranduil from the books to make Thranduil more aggressive compared to his book self) was because they belonged to his dead wife so I'm not sure how much it would fit for him to accept a random enchanted gem from Galadriel. That's all I have to say on the topic.

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