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Adamin:

--- Zitat von: Ealendil der Blaue am 17. Apr 2012, 20:56 ---Und den Stein von Erech, der auch ein übergroßer Palantir sein soll.

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Nö.

Shagrat:
Der Steon von Erech war "nur" ein Mitbringsel aus Numenor, auf den die Eidbrecher den gebrochenen Schwur geschworen haben, kein palantir

es gab genau 7 Palantiri in Mittelerde


--- Zitat von: Tolkiengateway ---    The Osgiliath-stone was the largest stone among the seven, and chief among them. It was placed in a prominent building in Osgiliath, the capital city of the kingdom of Gondor. The ceiling of its chamber was painted to resemble a starry sky, and gave its name (ost-giliath, the Dome of Stars) to the city itself. It was too large for one man to carry.

    The Elostirion-stone, also known as the Elendil Stone, was placed by Elendil in the tower of Elostirion in the Emyn Beraid, just west of The Shire. The tower and stone were maintained and guarded by Círdan and the Lindon-elves. Elendil used it to looked back along the Straight Road to Eressëa and even the Tower of Avallonë and the Master-stone, and though it is indicated that he tried, he could not see the fallen Númenor. It could not be used in communication with the other stones, and was unique in this respect.

    The Amon Sûl-stone was placed in the watch-tower of Amon Sûl. It was the largest and most powerful of the Arnorian palantíri and the one most used in communication with Gondor. Like the Osgiliath-stone, it "could not be lifted by one man."

    The Annúminas-stone was also placed in Arnor, in the city of Annúminas.

    The Ithil-stone was placed in Minas Ithil, in the mountains that came to be known as the Ephel Dúath. When Minas Ithil fell to the Nazgûl, the Ithil-stone was taken to Barad-dûr and used by Sauron.

    The Orthanc-stone was placed in the great tower built by the Dúnedain in the Second Age at the southern end of the Misty Mountains, Orthanc. It fell into the hands of the wizard Saruman, who used it to garner information on his neighbors and their activities. The stone was also partially responsible for Saruman's fall from grace, as he was using it when he came upon Sauron, and was ensnared by him. After the War of the Ring, the Orthanc-stone remained in the custody of the Kings of Gondor in the Fourth Age.

    The Anor-stone was placed at Minas Anor, later renamed Minas Tirith and made the capital of Gondor. It was kept an unused secret by the Ruling Stewards until it was ultimately used by Steward Denethor II to watch his land, and he eventually even challenged Sauron in a battle of wills. Denethor did not become corrupted, but the great effort of will that this required of him led him to age quickly. Denethor was holding the stone when he committed suicide on a funeral pyre, and after this, only people of exceeding power could see in it anything other than two flaming hands.
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Ealendil der Blaue:
Mit den Stein von Erech seit ihr ganz sicher?
Das hab ich auch aus ein Wiki für DHDR.

Auch der Schwarze Stein (orig.: Black Stone) genannt.
Was dieser Stein genau war, eine natürliche Felsformation, ein Teil eines Gebäudes, ein erhaltener Teil des Meneltarma oder wirklich etwas unirdisches, ist nicht bekannt. Daher muss es fraglich bleiben, warum Isildur den sicherlich schweren Stein von der untergehenden Insel rettete und nach Mittelerde mitnahm. In frühen Kapitelentwürfen (Many Roads lead estward) in The War of the Ring scheint der Stein von Erech ein Palantír (Palantír of Erech) gewesen zu sein.

ivethedenrath:
Aber da hast du doch deine Antwort.  8-|
Ein früheres Konzept, was von Tolkien wieder verworfen wurde, nichts besonderes.

Adamin:
Und da die Zahl Sieben in mehreren weiteren Konzepten rund um die Dunedain eingebunden ist (Sieben Sterne, für die Sieben Schiffe, mit sieben sehenden Steinen), ergibt es wenig Sinn diese Zahl einfach zu erhöhen.

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