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Shagrat:
wegen den Kaltrdrachen, wofür gibts Tolkiengateway?^^:
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Cold-drakes

ich würd sagen, du solltest "Breeding drake" nehmen

HerrscherSeuchenmarines:
@der norwegische Blauling- OH! Es tut mir furchtbar leid! Ich habe mich geirrt! Vielen Dank fuer das Link.

Thartom:

--- Zitat von: Der norwegische Blauling am  7. Jun 2014, 21:44 ---tja hier mal mein ergebniss... trotz zwischendurch abgeschmiertem Textdokument wodurch ich nochmal anfangen durfte... kenne ich... aber ich mach meinen Text dann morgen noch mal :-|

--- Zitat ---Habe mir im Zweifelsfall wenn ich nicht wusste wie genau Übersetzen. den Google übersetzer zur Hilfe genommen
--- Ende Zitat ---
same here... google und andere Übersetzer im Netz... Google translate hat mir nix für Getreue gegeben, nur True und Faithfull, und bei True war ich mir nicht sicher und Faithfull wär denk ich eher was im Bereich Glauben, also z.B. "Faithfull of Zeus" und diese beiden Seiten haben mir "Abider" Für "Getreue/r" ausgespuckt bzw eben "Getreue" als übersetzung von "Abider" wie wäre es mit "loyalist" (laut dict Anhänger)?

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipPurchaseUpgradeRo hanFortressBannerRohan
"The banners of Rohan reduce the costs for the revival of heroes by 20% \n Increases the speed of revival of heroes by 20% \n Heals nearby allies in the vicinity"
END müsste nicht nach jedem "END" eine Leerzeile folgen?
CONTROLBAR:PurchaseUpgradeRohanFort ressGoldenHall
"Hall of the anchestors (Vorfahren) fathers"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipPurchaseUpgradeRo hanFortressHorn
"The mighty Horn of Helm Hammerhand makes induces all units near the fortress fearing (sonst klingt das wie eine Spritze :D) with fear, so that they can't move"
END
CONTROLBAR:FireWeaponRohanFortressH orn
"makes (put ist eher körperlich bewegen, soweit ich weiß, außerdem würde ich die gleiche Formulierung wie beim Text oben nehmenPut enemies fearing in fear"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipBuildRohanStableL evel3Upgrade
"Level 3: +25% recruitment speed \n (ich hätte "enables" genommen) Allows the recruitment of the Royal Guard and as well as the purchase of Ridershields"
END
CONTROLBAR:TooltipEomerGrenzmarkier ung
"Requirement (steht schon im deutschen Text so da :D)Requires : Level 5 \n Eomer places the mutilated corpse of an enemy as a memorial at his position \n Aallies in the vicinity of the memorial fight more grim and receive +50% attack, enemies get demoralized and receive -50% attack and fear themselves \n Uncovers camouflaged units \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipEomerHerrderOstfo ld_Neu
1. "Requirement Requires : Level 2\n Eomer leads the exiles of Rohan \n Units near to him receive more experience and get pillage ressources for every defeated enemy \n \n Passive ability"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipEomerUnaufhaltsam erAnsturm
"Requirement (siehe oben) Requires : Level 6 \n Eomer and nearby mounted units in his vicinity tear unstoppable through the ranks of their enemies\n Left click to activate"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipEomerHerrderOstfo ld
"requirement (siehe... na wo wohl?)Requires : Level 2\n Eomer leads the exiles of Rohan \n Nearby uUnits near to him receive +25% attack and defence and get (ansonsten müsste glaub ich statt "for" "from") pillage ressources for every defeated enemy \n \n Passive ability"
END
CONTROLBAR:EomerGutwine
"Guthwine" sicher, dass man das so schreibt? In der Zeile drüber steht kein "h"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipHamasAnsturm
"RequirementRequires : Level 3 \n Hama starts an unstoppable assault on his enemies \n Hama and allieds units get 50% faster, receive less override damage and cause +50% damage \n Usable only mounted \n Left click to activate"
END
CONTROLBAR:TooltipHamaLeibwachedesK önigs
"RequirementRequires : Level 6 \n Hama had been chosen by Theoden himself as his Bodyguard \n As such he stands for honor and loyalty \n Theoden and Hama deal (umgangssprachlicher)obtain das gleiche heightened damage and , armor and their skills regenerate faster \n Passive ability"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipHamaSummonRoyalGu ard
"Requirement Requires : Level 10 \n Hama summons temporary a group of the rRoyal gGuardsmen ich glaub nicht, dass das ein Eigenname ist on [kein Leerzeichen] to the battlefield \n Left click on icon then left click on target  "
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityZud enWaffen_Neu2
"Requirement (nein, ich hab nix besseres zu tun)Requires : Level 5 \n In the name On behalf of the king, Gamling calls the folk of Rohan to the arms \n Peasents and levied soldiers are getting equiped with forged blades, which gives them increased attack \n If the chosen peasents haven't been armed by the Muster yet, then they will be armed in addition by the ability  \n Left click on icon then left click on allied peasentstarget  "
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityGam lingHerold_Neu
"Gamling organizes and arms the troops of Rohan for the war \n He provides a banner carrier for one group of peasents and raises them into the rank of soldiers of Rohan \ Left click on icon then left click on peasentstarget "
END
CONTROLBAR:TooltipGamlingsHorn
"Requirement (nein, wirklich nichts)Requires : Level 3 \n Not usable on the horse \n The sound of Gamling's horn paralyzes his enemies \n Left click to activate"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipToggleStanceBattl eTheodred
"Shortcut: F \n Theodred uses his dexterity and endurance in the fight \n He solely relies on his sword, what (damit jeder weiß, dass sich das nicht auf das Schwert bezieht) which makes him more nimble than in other stances"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipToggleStanceAggre ssiveTheodred
"Shortcut: D \n Theodred arms himself additionaly with an axe which raises his attack damage against buildings and heavy troops noticeably \n In return Theodred looses a little bit of maneuverability and (agility reicht) agility"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipCommandSelectUpgr adesWestfoldFaction
"With the support of Theodred you draw the units of the Westfold on your site  \n Kennst du das schöne Wort "Requirement" schon? Ansonsten "Required"Requires  for the recruitment of the unit: wie gesagt würd ich "Loyalist" nehmenAbider of the Westfold-abillity"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityErk enbrandSummonGetreue
"Erkenbrand calls additional mounted loyalist (und kleinschreiben, da kein richtiger Name) Abider to his support \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityErk enbrandSummonGetreueSchw ert
"Erkenbrand calls additional loyalist Abider armed with swords to his support \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityErk enbrandSummonGetreueSpee r
"Erkenbrand calls additional loyalist Abider armed with speers to his support \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END
CONTROLBAR:SpellBookErkenbrandWestf oldfor_HK
"Rescue at the last emergency"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipErkenbrandGloriou sCharge
"RequirementRequires : Level 8 \n Erkenbrand arouses the courage and burning lust for battle in the hearts of his Rohirrim and leads them in a massive assault against the enemy \n For a short time Erkenbrand and nearby Rohirrim in his vicinity suffer only 10% of the normal damage \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipHerrderWestfold
"The lord of the Westfold sends the tropps of Rohan into a defensive position \n (klein, da kein Name) sSwordsmen, sSpeermen and spear Javelin throwers in Erkenbrands vicinity get double armor (im deutschen Text ist hier übrigens ein "\n" zuviel) \n Passive ability"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityGri mboldSturmangriff
"Grimbold and his loyalists abiders ride down the chosen enemy's ranks \n Grimbold and his loyalists abiders take only very low damage and are 30% faster (weiß nicht, ob man wirklich das by nehmen kann und gehe einfach auf Nummer Sicher)faster by 30% for the duration of the assault \n Left click on icon then left click on targets "
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipElfhelmFeldmedizi n
"The soothing effects of Elfhelm's medicin heals nearby (nearby ftw!) allies in the surroundings \n Left click to activate"
END
So, was hältst du von meinen Änderungsvorschlägen?


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Shagrat:
Loyalists klingt eher danach:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_%28American_Revolution%29 und es is auhc nich so, dass da ein Großes Schisma durch Rohan geht, die Verräter in Rohan dürften wohl in der Unterzahl gewesen seni

und ich wählte Javelin thrower weil Javelins Wurfspeere sind, normale Speere werden eher selten geworfen ;) deshalb gabs z.B. auch Pilas als Spezielle Wurfspeere bei den Legionären und den Hasta als Speer für die Triarii
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javelin

und das Requires hab ich dem hier entlehnt:

--- Zitat ---"Voraussetzung: Rüstkammer Stufe 2"
          "Requires Level 2 Armory"
--- Ende Zitat ---


--- Zitat ---müsste nicht nach jedem "END" eine Leerzeile folgen?
--- Ende Zitat ---

ich habs so rauskopiert... die leerzeile wird scheinbar nicht übernommen

und afaik heißt es "call to arms" und nicht "call to the arms"


--- Zitat ---click on icon then left click on peasents target
--- Ende Zitat ---
hatteich vorher, dann hab ich aber die vorgegebene Bezeichnung genommen

--- Zitat ---.. \n Linksklicke auf das Symbol und anschließend auf das Ziel"
          "... \n Left click on icon then left click on target"
--- Ende Zitat ---

und "makes all units near the fortress fearing" klingt mMn auch nicht sonderlich gut
das sind nur einige Sachen die ich an deinen Verbesserungen anmerken wollte^^ Wie wärs mit "Terrifies nearby units"?

Hall of the Ancestors habe ich absichtlich nicht genommen, da es nunmal "halle der Väter" heißt, wie wärs mit "Hall of the forefathers"?

ind auf nearby hab ich an einigen Stellen absichtlich verzichtet, weil es... mMn noch blöder klang... eben z.B. "Eomer and nearby mounted units"

und "on behalf" bedeutet "Im Namen"

und bei Eomers Führerschaft: Ich habe Pillage genommen anstatt "get" weil: im Text steht das sie die Rohstoffe erbeuten^^ und da steht auch "und erbeuten für jeden besiegten Feind Rohstoffe " es müsste acuh eigentlich "von" heißen... i just keep in line with the german original. und capture fand ich nicht so gut^^


--- Zitat ---sicher, dass man das so schreibt? In der Zeile drüber steht kein "h"
--- Ende Zitat ---

ich hab da gar nix drann geändert^^

--- Zitat ---CONTROLBAR:EomerUnverwundbar
"Ungezähmter Wille"
END

CONTROLBAR:EomerGutwine
"Guthwine"
END

CONTROLBAR:EowynSchildmaid
"Schildmaid"
END
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im Grunde müsste es sogar "Gúthwinë" heißen

zum Thema Deal, obtain: die können allerdings auch nicht mehr "armor dealen"

Royal Guardsmen habe ich großgeschrieben weils der Einheiten name ist und man ihn dadurch besser rauslesen kann und zumindest "Royal Guards" scheint groß geschriben zuw erden "Monarchs frequently modelled their Royal Guards upon those of fellow rulers" wobei ich mich an dem Punkt sowieso vertan hab weil Guardsmen nicht Garde sondenr Wachposten heißt^^


--- Zitat ---Theodred looses a little bit of maneuverability and (agility reicht) agility
--- Ende Zitat ---
Originaltext

--- Zitat ---Im Gegenzug verliert Theodred ein wenig an Wendigkeit und Aggilität
--- Ende Zitat ---

das sind nur einige Sachen die ich an deinen Verbesserungen anmerken wollte^^

jedoch werd ich einige der Vorschläge einbinden, danke^^

Shagrat:
Hier Rohan II nochmal überarbeitet


--- Code: ---CONTROLBAR:ToolTipPurchaseUpgradeRohanFortressBannerRohan
"The banners of Rohan reduce the costs for the revival of heroes by 20% \n Increases the speed of revival of heroes by 20% \n Heals allies nearby "
END

CONTROLBAR:PurchaseUpgradeRohanFortressGoldenHall
"Hall of the forefathers"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipPurchaseUpgradeRohanFortressGoldenHall
"Allows the return of Helm Hamerhand \n Increases the fortress' field of view"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipPurchaseUpgradeRohanFortressHorn
"The mighty Horn of Helm Hammerhand terrifies units nearby the fortress"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipFireWeaponRohanFortressHorn
"Let sound the horn of Helm \n Left click to activate"
END

CONTROLBAR:FireWeaponRohanFortressHorn
"Intimidates nearby enemies"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipBuildRohanWächterMeduseldsHorde
"Strong vs. Cavalry"
END

CONTROLBAR:TheodenGunstdesKönigs
"King of Rohan"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipTheodenGunstdesKönigs
"The king of Rohan grants experience to his troops \n Left click to activate"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipBuildRohanStableLevel3Upgrade
"Level 3: +25% recruitment speed \n Enables the recruitment of the Royal Guard and the purchase of Ridershields"
END

OBJECT:RohanGoldenHall
"Rohan: Golden Hall"
END

CONTROLBAR:EomerGrenzmarkierung
"Memorial"
END

CONTROLBAR:TooltipEomerGrenzmarkierung
"Requires: Level 5 \n Eomer places the mutilated corpse of an enemy as a memorial at his position \n allies nearby the memorial fight more grim and receive +50% attack, enemies get demoralized and receive -50% attack and fear themselves \n Uncovers camouflaged units \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipEomerHerrderOstfold_Neu
"Requires: Level 2\n Eomer leads the exiles of Rohan \n Units near to him receive more experience and pillage ressources for every defeated enemy \n Passive ability"
END

CONTROLBAR:EomerHerrderOstfold
"Leader of the exiles"
END

CONTROLBAR:EomerUnaufhaltsamerAnsturm
"Unstoppable Assault"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipEomerUnaufhaltsamerAnsturm
"Requires: Level 6 \n Eomer and units in his vicinity tear unstoppable through the ranks of their enemies\n Left click to activate"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipEomerHerrderOstfold
"Requires: Level 2\n Eomer leads the exiles of Rohan \n Units near to him receive +25% attack and defence and pillage ressources for every defeated enemy \n \n Passive ability"
END

CONTROLBAR:EomerUnverwundbar
"Untameable will"
END

CONTROLBAR:EomerGutwine
"Gúthwinë"
END

CONTROLBAR:EowynSchildmaid
"Shieldmaiden"
END

CONTROLBAR:SpecialAbilityHamaSeiteanSeite
"Side by side"
END

CONTROLBAR:HamasAnsturm
"Unstoppable Assault"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipHamasAnsturm
"Requires: Level 3 \n Hama starts an unstoppable assault on his enemies \n Hama and allies units get 50% faster, receive less override damage and cause +50% damage \n Usable only mounted\n Left click to activate"
END

CONTROLBAR:HamaLeibwachedesKönigs
"Théoden's bodyguard"
END

CONTROLBAR:TooltipHamaLeibwachedesKönigs
"Requires: Level 6 \n Hama had been chosen by Theóden himself as his Bodyguard \n As such he stands for honor and loyalty \n Theóden and Hama deal more damage, obtain heightened armor and their skills regenerate faster \n Passive ability"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipHamaSummonRoyalGuard
"Requires: Level 10 \n Hama summons temporary a group of the Royal Guards onto the battlefield \n Left click on icon then left click on target"
END

CONTROLBAR:HamaSummonRoyalGuard
"Guards of the Golden Hall"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityZudenWaffen_Neu2
"Requires: Level 5 \n On behalf of the king, Gamling calls the folk of Rohan to arms \n Peasents and levied soldiers are getting equiped with forged blades, which gives them increased attack \n If the chosen peasents haven't been armed yet by the Muster then they will be armed in addition by the ability \n Left click on icon then left click on an unit of peasents"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityGamlingHerold_Neu
"Gamling organizes and arms the troops of Rohan for the war \n He provides a banner carrier for one group of peasents and raises them into the rank of soldiers of Rohan \ Left click on icon then left click on an unit of peasents"
END

CONTROLBAR:GamlingFlammenschuß
"Aimed flaming-shot"
END

CONTROLBAR:GamlingsHorn
"Gamling's horn"
END

CONTROLBAR:TooltipGamlingsHorn
"Requires: Level 3 \n Not usable on the horse \n The sound of Gamling's horn paralyzes his enemies \n Left click to activate"
END
CONTROLBAR:ToggleStanceBattleTheodred
"Sword stance"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipToggleStanceBattleTheodred
"Shortcut: F \n Theodred uses his dexterity and endurance in the fight \n He solely relies on his sword, which makes him more nimble than in other stances"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToggleStanceAggressiveTheodred
"Axe stance"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipToggleStanceAggressiveTheodred
"Shortcut: D \n Theodred arms himself additionaly with an axe which raises his attack damage against buildings and heavy troops noticeably \n In return Theodred looses a little bit of maneuverability and agility"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToggleStanceHoldGroundTheodred
"Shield stance"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipToggleStanceHoldGroundTheodred
"Shortcut: G \n Theodred arms himself with a shield which offers him protection and security \n In return his attack speed and maneuverability suffer \n Enemies are only getting attacked at a short distance"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipCommandSelectUpgradesWestfoldFaction
"With the support of Theodred you draw the units of the Westfold on your site \n Required for the recruitment of the unit: Abider of the Westfold-abillity"
END

CONTROLBAR:SpecialAbilityErkenbrandSummonGetreueSchwert
"Call support - Swordsmen"
END

CONTROLBAR:SpecialAbilityErkenbrandSummonGetreueSpeer
"Call support - Speermen"
END

CONTROLBAR:SpecialAbilityErkenbrandSummonGetreue
"Call support - Riders"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityErkenbrandSummonGetreue
"Erkenbrand calls additional mounted abider to his support \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityErkenbrandSummonGetreueSchwert
"Erkenbrand calls additional abider armed with swords to his support \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityErkenbrandSummonGetreueSpeer
"Erkenbrand calls additional Abider armed with speers to his support \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END

CONTROLBAR:SpellBookErkenbrandWestfoldfor_HK
"Rescue at the last emergency"
END

CONTROLBAR:ErkenbrandGloriousCharge
"Forth, Eorlingas!"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipErkenbrandGloriousCharge
"Requires: Level 8 \n Erkenbrand arouses the courage and burning lust for battle in the hearts of his Rohirrim and leads them in a massive assault against the enemy \n For a short time Erkenbrand and Rohirrim in his vicinity suffer only 10% of the normal damage \n Left click on icon then left click on target area "
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipHerrderWestfold
"The lord of the Westfold sends the tropps of Rohan into a defensive position \n swordsmen, speermen and javelin throwers in Erkenbrands vicinity get double armor \n Passive ability"
END

CONTROLBAR:SpecialAbilityGrimboldSturmangriff
"Assault"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipSpecialAbilityGrimboldSturmangriff
"Grimbold and his abiders ride down the chosen enemy's ranks \n Grimbold and his abiders take only very low damage and are faster by 30% for the duration of the assault \n Left click on icon then left click on target "
END

CONTROLBAR:ElfhelmFeldmedizin
"Field medicine"
END

CONTROLBAR:ToolTipElfhelmFeldmedizin
"The soothing effects of Elfhelm's medicin heals allies nearby \n Left click to activate"
END
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btw die beiden Artikel hier könnten evtl. praktisch sein
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Battle_for_Middle-earth_%28List_of_buildings%29
http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Battle_for_Middle-earth_%28List_of_units%29
zumindest bei ein paar Namen

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