[en] Edain Mod > [Edain] Imladris Suggestions
Elrond - Lord of Imladris
ziqing:
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In my proposal the concept is basically: once you have activated the power, all the units become temporarily invulnerable (just like in the previous Edain Mod 3.8.1), but, this time, if she is next to your Lothlórien settlement, all the settlement will temporarily shine and become invulnerable to every type of attack (especially the ones of the siege machines) and spell.
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I see this part in previous reply. I would rather with her leveling up, all Mallorn trees in the wild will be surrounded by densed fog which permanently reduce the damage from siege weapon and melee units, and also provide healing and defense bonus for nearby elves. I would rather her influence to be global, permanent and subtle.
I will keep reserved opinions in this "invulnerable power", this kind of power should correspond to some epic defense battle scene in the book, Hama earn it because of his valar in Helms Deep, King Dain because the bloody battle in Erebor against Easterlings, and Throin earns it for gods-know-what-reason(Azanulbizar?). Although there are also defense battle for Lorien during the war, it is not as tragic as those battles.
Gandalf The Gray:
i think it is better for elrond to start with his clothes and later at lvl 5 get the black armor then lvl 10 get the last alliance and if you buff him with a forged armor he gets the golden armor with some new ult but not the tornado galadriel should have the tornado
helloa2134:
Why should he get three or four different outfits? It doesn't really fit. Just have Elrond have his brown-silver armor at level 5, and have his Last Alliance armor when he is summoned in the Last Alliance Spell.
TiberiusOgden:
--- Zitat von: Gandalf The Gray am 15. Jul 2015, 16:22 ---i think it is better for elrond to start with his clothes and later at lvl 5 get the black armor then lvl 10 get the last alliance and if you buff him with a forged armor he gets the golden armor
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Yes, that's my proposal, but on level 10 should be his Dol Guldur armour. I think that three outfits are quite sufficient and suitable for him. Either way it will be unique. You are talking about four variations and it's quite a lot. xD
--- Zitat von: Gandalf The Gray am 15. Jul 2015, 16:22 ---with some new ult but not the tornado galadriel should have the tornado
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Honestly, yes, Gladys has tornado (her dark/ring hero form) but Elrond has whirlwind, it isn't strong tornado, but either way, I feel that it isn't suitable and lore accurate (in comparison to Nenya or Narya which have brilliant implementations in the mod) and mainly - I think that his role is (or will be) very useful hero supporter, but destructive whirlwind doesn't correspond with his role.
--- Zitat von: helloa2134 am 15. Jul 2015, 16:42 ---and have his Last Alliance armor when he is summoned in the Last Alliance Spell.
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And in which faction he is summoned in the Last Alliance Spell? So where will be chance to see him in this armour? :P
Elves with Elrond were removed from Arnor ultimate spell and there is completely different effect (Gondor summoning). Try to play for Arnor. :P
And in Imladris? Yes, there is Last Alliance Spell, but logically without Elrond because he is as a permanent and main hero there ... and clones had only in Matrix trilogy. xD
But I have an idea ...
--- Zitat von: helloa2134 am 13. Jul 2015, 22:42 ---Elrond's role as a helper to others is fulfilled with his "Refresh" ability, which allows an allied hero to instantly use their abilities again. I would argue that Refresh is Elrond's other iconic ability.
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I completely agree with you, in vanilla game such spell was available on level 10 ... maybe this could be effect of the Elven ring, mass heal and recovering of abilities for heroes, because it's mighty ability and Elrond isn't powerful sorcerer, so in that case his healing skills are supported by the Elven ring. So on level seven will be space for some new and "normal" ability. :)
For level 7 (or for lower level - it isn't important) I suggest simply solution - "mount/dismount" - we know that he is able ride a horse quite a long time, since days of Arnor ...
and in the first Hobbit movie we can see him as a leader of Imladris cavalry:
... also it fits into the faction, Imladris will have melee cavalry and only Glorfindel and Arwen are able to ride.
So effects for three Elven rings of power will be following:
Narya - supports
Nenya - protects
Vilya - heals
It makes sense. :)
Walküre:
--- Zitat von: TiberiusOgden am 15. Jul 2015, 18:10 ---
Nenya - protects
It makes sense. :)
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Nenya protects indeed (**) 8-) xD
--- Zitat ---I completely agree with you, in vanilla game such spell was available on level 10 ... maybe this could be effect of the Elven ring, mass heal and recovering of abilities for heroes, because it's mighty ability and Elrond isn't powerful sorcerer, so in that case his healing skills are supported by the Elven ring. So on level seven will be space for some new and "normal" ability. :)
For level 7 (or for lower level - it isn't important) I suggest simply solution - "mount/dismount" - we know that he is able ride a horse quite a long time, since days of Arnor ...
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I agree, I think that only Galadriel, among all the other elven heroes, should be able to use Magic in the way of modifying the Weather to create storms or whirls.
We could say that Elrond's 'little tornado' power is a nice and useful memory of BFME2, but I have never found it really appropriate for the very nature and essence of Elrond himself.
He is more a Healer and a Guardian of a sacred place in the War of the Ring, but, unlike Galadriel, his place/realm was not under constant attack, and he doesn't have to use his powers to physically protect it from heavy assaults (what Galadriel does on the other hand) or to destroy and cleanse an evil and corrupted ruined fortress in a dark wood.
Furthermore, we mustn't forget that Vilya is the Ring of Air, but hasn't primarily the power of conjuring whirlwinds; the main power of Vilya (apart from its protection of Rivendell and its status as the source of all the Joy and Bliss of that place) is maintaining a 'minimum quantity' of Good and Order in the World, whatever happens outside Rivendell.
I like the idea of a mount for him, so kingly, as all the armours are for every hero :)
Even though 'someone' is so kingly and royal that doesn't even need a mount (but in the books, in ROTK, she rides a beautiful White Horse when she's heading to the Grey Havens) :P
#AHorseForElrond :)
Edit:
Also, a mount defines better the 'commander of armies' nature of Elrond, rather than being a wind sorcerer.
Because, obviously, #OnlyGaladrielCan 8-)
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