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Elrond - Lord of Imladris
Gandalf The Gray:
i think his lvl 10 ability should be the water horses for a mass kill ya know like in the books he summons the river ok gandalf did the one horse head but still elrond did the trick so there ya go lvl 10 ability
CragLord:
--- Zitat von: TiberiusOgden am 15. Jul 2015, 22:34 ---So Elrond skillset will look something like this:
1) Loud waters fury
Water blast in targeting area
3) Elrond's advice
Small amount of experience to hero
5) Armour of high elves
Passive ability - bonus effect for friendly units
7) Mount/dismount
Lord of Imladris is able to ride a horse
10) Vilya's restoration
Power of the elven ring heals nearby allies and refreshes ability timer of friendly heroes
Abilities are the same like in the previous version and probably will be the same in the current version. Change is only for level 7 (horse) and former spell on level seven is moved to level 10.
Many arguments for that are above. :)
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Have you guys consider idea of spell unlocking like with Aragorn, I know that idea with Aragorn skill's upgrade and unlocking follows his life story, but think it would be fitting for Elrond also. I propose this idea firstly because of that tripple armour upgrade. (Also would like to see that Dol-Guldur's armour). That upgrades could be selected chronologically. (Where we should have 4 models)
* Starting model without armour, something like:
http://elvenesse.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Elrond_standup.jpg or this
http://www.rotezora.org/01_Film/hdr/elben/elrond/elrond3.jpg
* First upgrade on level 5, model from Last Alliance.
* Second upgrade on level 7 or 8, model form orc hunt-Hobbit movie UJ.
* Third upgrad on level 10, model from Dol Guldur-Hobbit movie BoTFa.During leveling his ability "Armour of high elves" should be stronger and stronger. (Improvement of leadership). Also on lower level, before he got 10 and "Vilya's restoration" (Does this ability can be used on him for healing?) he should have some hero healing ability like Athelas in vanila game, after all he's greatest healer of Middle Earth. This ability on level 10 should be replaced with "Vilya's restoration".
If four model system is too much, then same idea only with 3 models, and he start with some of mentioned armour's models. :)
Names of model upgrades and order of model upgrading is something I presume you will propose better then me. xD
Also if he becomes a ring hero for Imladris, and there is not space for new abilities in his palantir,(like maybe water ponies 8-) ) maybe is also good idea to implement new look of palantir like team did with Sauron's ring form.
ziqing:
--- Zitat von: CragLord am 16. Jul 2015, 01:22 ---
* Starting model without armour, something like:
http://elvenesse.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Elrond_standup.jpg or this
http://www.rotezora.org/01_Film/hdr/elben/elrond/elrond3.jpg
* First upgrade on level 5, model from Last Alliance.
* Second upgrade on level 7 or 8, model form orc hunt-Hobbit movie UJ.
* Third upgrad on level 10, model from Dol Guldur-Hobbit movie BoTFa.
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I disagree, as you said there is no evolution in Elrond's role, and his armor in last alliance is definitely way better than his armor in Hobbit, it was made from the Noldor craftmanship of second age and he wore it in the most brutal and epic battle against Sauron, it will either be the final armor of his or only appear in the last alliance. That dark armor in Hobbit I is just for hunting , it is barely made for actual battle. I think we don't really need to involve it in the design(but I know the team has already finished this model)
TiberiusOgden:
--- Zitat von: Tienety am 16. Jul 2015, 00:15 --- It would be nice to have Elrond on horse like in hobbit movie. (**)
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It seems that originally it was your idea some time ago. :D
http://www.moddb.com/mods/edain-mod/images/elrond1
Walküre:
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 16. Jul 2015, 00:49 ---It is mentioned in The Silmarillion that Celebrimbor had forged the Three in order to heal and to preserve, rather than to enhance the strengths of each individual bearer, unlike the seven and the nine.
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But all the Rings of Power have, intentionally or unintetionally, this effect on everyone who wields them, either they were corrupted by Sauron's powers or not; even though we know that Elrond, Galadriel and Gandalf already have immense powers by themselves, and end up using their Rings also as 'tools' to channel all their full potential, as it is shown in FOTR (book), when Galadriel (tempted by the One Ring and by her desires of dominion) raises her hand and obscure all the Stars in the Sky with Nenya's brightness.
And remember that it's true that the Three were forged by Celebrimbor alone, but he still learnt the basic knowledge (let's call it 'secret formula') to create the Rings of Powers by Sauron himself, and thus the Three are unwillingly bound to the destiny of the One Ring like the other Rings, and share with them fundamental elements/characteristics, and enhancing the natural powers of their bearers is one of these common characteristics.
--- Zitat ---I don't know, I think I basically disagree with your interpretion of the three rings, in the book the three ring is forged so that Noldor and other Elves from the west could remain living in the middle earth against the will of Valar, it is subtle and global influence. But it seems you would rather make them directly related to battle, which go directly against the lore.
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You are totally right, that's why I think that a Healing/Restoring power is more suitable for Vilya, since Elrond never used in the lore its powers, apart from the flood (power that he already has), in the destructive purpose of creating whirlwinds.
I recognise that it is his iconic power and a nice remnant of BFME2, but it doesn't really fit Vilya's nature.
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