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Elrond - Lord of Imladris
Tienety:
I have a solution for Elrond's armors: :P
* He can have armor from hobbit movie on level 1
* He gets armor from Last Alliance or Guldur on level 5. -
Elrond never fought without armor in book or movie. In addition, this is fit for Imladris style. Imladris units without heavy armor have silver color from hobbit movie and for heavy armor have gold color like in Last Aliance. :D
--- Zitat von: Gandalf The Gray am 16. Jul 2015, 01:06 ---i think his lvl 10 ability should be the water horses for a mass kill ya know like in the books he summons the river ok gandalf did the one horse head but still elrond did the trick so there ya go lvl 10 ability
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Yes, this would be probably better. Maybe mounted/dismounted on level 1 and Loud waters fury ability as more powerful spells on level 7 or Level 10.
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--- Zitat von: Tienety am 16. Jul 2015, 00:15 --- It would be nice to have Elrond on horse like in hobbit movie. (**)
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It seems that originally it was your idea some time ago. :D
http://www.moddb.com/mods/edain-mod/images/elrond1
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Yes, I like his horse. 8-)
Walküre:
--- Zitat von: Tienety am 16. Jul 2015, 10:44 ---
Elrond never fought without armor in book or movie. In addition, this is fit for Imladris style. Imladris units without heavy armor have silver color from hobbit movie and for heavy armor have gold color like in Last Aliance. :D
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True, although I like his elven robe/'free time' outfit, I find it more suitable for banquets and parties, rather than battles :P
Again I agree, since in the books/lore Elrond openly uses his powers (in a destructive way) to create a flood to save Frodo from the Ringwraiths, rather than using whirlwinds (because #OnlyGaladrielCan).
It has to be, though, a really powerful and giant flood :)
CragLord:
Ok, two models, starting with Hobbit light armor, at level 5 getting heavy armor from Last Alliance. First you propose set of abilities without Flood, now Flood is included in set? I am confused now. :o :D
Can someone now describe whole set of abilities from level 1 to level 10? :)
TiberiusOgden:
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 16. Jul 2015, 00:49 ---It is mentioned in The Silmarillion that Celebrimbor had forged the Three in order to heal and to preserve, rather than to enhance the strengths of each individual bearer, unlike the seven and the nine.
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Yes, and my proposal is about it. xD
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 16. Jul 2015, 00:49 ---I don't know, I think I basically disagree with your interpretion of the three rings, in the book the three ring is forged so that Noldor and other Elves from the west could remain living in the middle earth against the will of Valar, it is subtle and global influence. But it seems you would rather make them directly related to battle, which go directly against the lore. But I won't argue more on that anymore.
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I really don't know why you are talking about Elven rings generally, that their implementation is bad etc. It isn't my interpretation, but it comes from Edain team and from previous versions. We have already stated that we really like effects of Narya and Nenya, because for game play their nature have brilliant implementation. This thread is primarily about Vilya which is offensive although rest of elven rings has defensive potential and also that current Vilya effect doesn't fit there.
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 16. Jul 2015, 00:49 ---he himself is the greatest healer of middle earth. And deleting his final tornado power just for a "mounted/dismounted" toggle? I do not like it one bit.
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Well, firstly you stated that Elrond is the greatest healer, and then that you like his tornado. And tornado comes from Vilya? You stated elven rings of power arent't for battle purpose. Of course that Elrond is greatest healer and his abilities are supported by ring of preservation. I think it fits perfectly and mainly it fits into the general ring concept.
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 16. Jul 2015, 00:49 ---Who will be the massive killer of Imladris then?
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He is mass slayer? Really? :o
I always thought that he is strong hero supporter and secondarily unit supporter + ring hero. His abilities don't correspond with mass slayer role, such role have for instance Smaug as a big creature, Mollock as a terrible monster or Gandalf as a powerful wizard.
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 16. Jul 2015, 00:49 ---And I am pretty sure Elrond will fight along side Imladris heavy infantry 95% time on foot, that "mounted/dismounted" toggle is meaningless
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Don't forget that Imladris will be the second "most cavalry faction" in the game. xD
And only two heroes there are able to ride a horse.
--- Zitat von: ziqing am 16. Jul 2015, 00:49 ---Almost all human and elves in Middle earth know how to ride a horse, that doesn't mean we need to give a mounted ability to everyone just to take a precious power slot unless it serves a tactical need.
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Yes, but in Edain mod, all heroes, who are on horseback in the books and in the movies quite a long time, or at least twice, have such possibility.
Concerning idea of Tienety ... it would be second suggestion. :)
First proposal is:
1) Loud waters fury
Water blast in targeting area
3) Elrond's advice
Small amount of experience to hero
5) Armour of high elves
Passive ability - bonus effect for friendly units
7) Mount/dismount
Lord of Imladris is able to ride a horse
10) Vilya's restoration
Power of the elven ring heals nearby allies and refreshes ability timer of friendly heroes
First four levels Elrond has bathrobe. Since level 5 armour from the first Hobbit movie and on level ten his DG armour.
And second proposal:
1) Mount/dismount
Lord of Imladris is able to ride a horse
3) Elrond's advice
Small amount of experience to hero
5) Armour of high elves
Passive ability - bonus effect for friendly units
7) Loud waters fury
Water blast in targeting area (but stronger than previous one on first level)
10) Vilya's restoration
Power of the elven ring heals nearby allies and refreshes ability timer of friendly heroes
First four levels armour from the first Hobbit movie. Since level 5 armour from Dol Guldur. Overall he is without bathrobe! :o xD
Generally his last alliance armour should be for Arnor and he should be included in Last Alliance spell there. http://en.modding-union.com/index.php/topic,30925.0.html
Gandalf The Gray:
what about that. beginning should be elrond with his gold robe https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/03/fd/83/03fd83eadc0761543360ca5f8b688f85.jpg or the one from lotr https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/53/52/0c/53520c6e951a44203e33db4c3418d74f.jpg and then you have to choose the armor you want to forge for him and the armors should have their own buffs whada ya think ???
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