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Mordor Balance Discussion

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Dain@:
Hello! In my opinion at this time the Nazgul are weak and their price is too high!. If at a later stage of the game are more or less normal, at an early stage it is just madness!. While the Necromancer has not reached the level of 6-7! Nazgul useless! so also the little ones that are very expensive and does not meet the criterion of cost / benefit. And if two Nazgûl still somehow can eyeing the five - they are only useful at level 10. Before hiring does not make sense. WK is strong but very expensive. 3500 is the most expensive characters. Similarly this applies Khamul. 2850! Oh, and yes even with regard to the two Nazgul! I wonder who that updates the Nazgul to the hunter ring? I personally always updated to the marshal. But it will be interesting if someone will share his thoughts. As if there was not one thing it is clear that at least need some polishing Nazgul, with proper elaboration, they can become unique characters. My suggestion about the Nazgul the following: At an early stage to give Nazgul weak capacity but it will be enough for them until the necromancer attains 5 level, because if you upgrade the Nazgul to marshal before Necromancer scored 5 level it is a useless waste of money just think Thorin and Glorfindel are 1800 ! as well as the Nazgul and the benefits that different! I hope this article will lead to a heated discussion about the further development of the Nazgul.

The second sentence: Add a few new abilities (defense, economic, tactical) for Minas Morgul and Dol Guldur. For example, only enough to compare Dol Guldur / Minas Morgul with Dale or Mirkud. Obviously Mirkwood / Dale efficient, cheaper and offers more tactical maneuvers.
Dol Guldur
Price reduced to 2000.
For Dol Guldur I offer the following update:
Poison - Passive. Leave now.
Spiders. - Fortress gets improved spiders. So five huge spiders will guard the fortress. (After using the influence of Sauron)
Enchantment of abandonment - Near the fortress there is a fog that hides the allied forces and they can be cured.
Resident Necromancer. -Pasivnoe. Fortress receives 25% reservation and 25% generate more money. Also, 25% enhances the action of the poison (the damage of the first ability.)
Minas Morgul is still in development
And what do you think?

Slawek56703:

--- Zitat ---From what i read next update make solid improvment to defensive part of game giving all factions something that give them chance to break enemy aggresion when they are sieged . Mordor get Banner that speed up recruitment of nearby buildings which i think with current Mordor overpowered uncontrolled orc spam make game against Mordor player even worse . Incresing massively lag making game for everybody annoying and uncomfortable . I just want to know how increasing build speed can make Mordor faction more balanced {?}
Banner like all buildings in defensive buildplot will be cheap so any player proably go from start building atleast one even without caring for economy becouse of Gorbag . How Edain Team balance this one ? Slowing down orcs recruit speed and decreasing orc damage helps but wil this be enough ? Additionaly i could recommend making Morgul and Dol Guldor Orcs cost money they shouldnt be free at least cost 250 per horde . I will be honest with u making regular orcs cost at least 50 - 100 helps preventing player from super spam of orcs . Mordor in bfme 1 just had diffrent balance that sadly im not sure can work in edain 4 ); orcs there were just much weaker
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I would be glad for answer and deeper explanation if possible .

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
Mordor's orc spam won't stay like this. ;)

Big F:
This is the Mordor subsection of my gameplay & balance post over at the general balance discussion thread.

Mouth of Sauron (especially dissent) is too strong.

Mordor’s early game is frustratingly weak while it’s very difficult to lose with mordor once you reach late game. It is too extreme. Slow orcs that deal little damage have no chance to defend farms and you can't even get the economy needed to make a troll for defense.
Mordor's economy is too strong with free and instant economy upgrades while spamming free orcs.

Elendils Cousin 3. Grades:
Dissent will be moved to level ten in the next patch.

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