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Mordor Balance Discussion

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Elite KryPtik:
The thing is, they aren't worth their current price due to how weak they are. I wouldn't give them a price increase at all, even with a full slaughterhouse discount your still paying over 400 per troll, plus upgrades. Also I'm for removing trample, its more of a liability than an asset.

Lord of Mordor:
We don't want to increase their base price because they still have several expensive upgrades and not all monsters should have to be highly costed. I'd prefer finding a strength level that fits their current price of 600.

The trample is a matter of realism - I think it would look very strange if you could actually box a troll in with swordsmen and he couldn't walk over them to get out. I kinda like that you have to maneuver your trolls carefully around pikemen, but they should actually be strong enough to justify the effort. How much do you think their damage and armor should be increased, and against which enemy types?

Decreasing Orc damage sounds like a good idea. As others have said, the free Orcs are meant to be mainly a damage sponge while you deal damage through other means (or weaken your enemies enough that the Orcs can take care of them, but they shouldn't be able to do that without support).

Melkor Bauglir:

--- Zitat ---The trample is a matter of realism - I think it would look very strange if you could actually box a troll in with swordsmen and he couldn't walk over them to get out.
--- Ende Zitat ---
I have to agree on that. Also, this is something that seperates someone with good from someone with bad troll-micro: The bad one will just charge into the enemy troops and losing 30-100% of the trolls' HP before standing still and attacking. The one's with good micro will just charge to the enemy, hit "S" before trampling pikes and use their knockdown attacks which are both way stronger and safer than trampling foes. (This actually makes them sort of viable against pikes because especially trolls with a mace have quite a huge AOE -and knocked-down pikes can't attack!)

Greetings
Melkor Bauglir

Odysseus:
The Lord of Gifts has spoken :D.

I agree so far with what has been said about the trolls. I suppose lowering damage from turrets a bit, and I guess reducing trample damage a bit, might be something to consider. Otherwise, a troll can do quite a number on a lone, low-level hero. They are close to being quite good for their 600 price tag.

Looking forward to nerfing the default orcs. That's gonna give other factions a bit more room to breathe against Mordor.

Elite KryPtik:
I disagree with nerfing orcs. A good palyer can already shut down Mordor extremely easily in the EG, nerfing orcs just makes it easier.

Trolls should be very strong vs swordsmen and cavalry, but take moderate damage from archers and heavy damage from pikes and heroes. They also could use a health buff of say 15%. Their resistance against building arrows should also be higher, a single battle tower can kill a troll easily right now.

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