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Evil Men Faction

Yes an Evil Men faction would be great with all of the realms combined.
77 (65.8%)
I like the evil men the way they are now.
6 (5.1%)
I think they should not have a faction but i would like more units from the spellbook.
3 (2.6%)
Harad And Rhun should be two separate factions.
31 (26.5%)

Stimmen insgesamt: 114

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FilipGeorg95

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Re: A possible new Evil Men faction
« Antwort #105 am: 17. Mai 2018, 11:48 »
You might as well read my two concepts that I posted here. I made Harad and Rhun as main factions while Umbar and Khand as their subfactions. Feel free to give feedback in order to improve certain things :) :)

AulëTheSmith

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Re: A possible new Evil Men faction
« Antwort #106 am: 18. Mai 2018, 01:07 »
Aule, your ideas are perfect. Just make up a name or go with one of the other nazgul. It would still work.

It is what i will actually do, going deeper into character's lore and finding a proper haradrim name  ;) One of the first thing i made at the beginning of the project was actually looking for dark/terrible Harad names, that was before i came up (wrongly [ugly]) to the idea of Heromur. But in game it will be unnamed, with only the Title of "The Forsaken".

Garlodur: i read your concept, the one on google drive, it's awesome man! Both you and Filip have done a beautiful job, there's a lot of nice material to discuss!!   xD
I'm not sure about making Khamul the ring hero. But still it seems the most reasonable option. What about connecting the ring function to some dark cult/magic? I would also change the abilities of stadard (no ring) Khamul, in order to contextualize him into the new faction; not simply a copy of the Mordor's one. Maybe we should change his role from building interferer to real supporter for the faction.

I would like to craft also a concept of the Dark Headsman; i'm not only sure if an axe fits for a Nazgul. it seems that this model (from forgeworld/hobbit movie) is the heir  of the old GW miniture of The Knight of Umbar (which is better title anyway). At least is what is theorized on fandom wiki. I saw you put some images of him. The Edain team also got the inspiration from GW about Dark Marshall and Shadow Lord.

Finally, in this way you will have Khamul as chieftain plus The Forsaken and Khight of Umbar, as his minor lieutenants to support him. All three once belong to a specific reign of Evil Men faction: Rhun, Harad and Umbar. Each one of the three will have a specific new set of abilities (totally unique with respect to the Mordor's versions) to underline the fact that they're now walking again on their past lands, which give them strength and some of their ancient power as Kings of Men. What do you guys Think?  ;)

Lord Aytugar

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Re: A possible new Evil Men faction
« Antwort #107 am: 22. Mai 2018, 13:33 »
Hello friends!

After a long time for completing my work, I prepared a consept for Men of Darkness.

The  content focus on  different systems and the mechanic. So I did not see  it is necessary to put some pictures at this step.

I am expecting your comments about it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=114LHjV2-k1BaY8gGmKQxTvruLk-qCDES

Edit: The original consept has some improvements now. I added a few pictures for new units. I know the implementation of this will take a while, but if you get bored or anything else, just consider it and comment about it please.

« Letzte Änderung: Heute um 14:17 von Lord Aytugar »

dkbluewizard

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Re: A possible new Evil Men faction
« Antwort #108 am: 22. Mai 2018, 14:13 »
 Lord Aytugar, I really liked this concept and how you made the heroes more Low Men and Black Numenorian based. I think the heroes are very canonical and you have some good/cool ideas. Hope to see some of this implemented in the future.
Outside of Lord of the Rings, I am pretty sure Vengeance of Valdorian & Leoj's Wrath are the best novels I have read.

Lord Aytugar

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Re: A possible new Evil Men faction
« Antwort #109 am: 22. Mai 2018, 14:24 »
Thank you dkbluewizard. I remember your cool ideas as well, I am glad to hear that from you.

I hope one day we see it happened.

dkbluewizard

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Re: A possible new Evil Men faction
« Antwort #110 am: Heute um 05:25 »
No problem Lord Aytugar. Just a thought also, maybe many of you haven't read the Silmarillion. But it says in the East Morgoth left lesser lieutenants. Who knows what happened to them in the Second and Third Age. But it is all conjecture. But what we do know is that he left lieutenants with the Men of the East. Which they had to be some type of Maia, Beast, or Orc. The story of Fankil in one of Tolkien's notes bears a strong resemblance to this notion.

So if you guys wanted to use any of Morgoth's lieutenants, that is a possibility as well.
Outside of Lord of the Rings, I am pretty sure Vengeance of Valdorian & Leoj's Wrath are the best novels I have read.

Lord Aytugar

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Re: A possible new Evil Men faction
« Antwort #111 am: Heute um 11:19 »
Dkbluewizard, I tried to implement the lieutenant through Templar Knight who has no name in my consept. He is available in the Temple after Black Numenorian spell. With this way, there is a lieutanant of Morgoth in the East resembled as recruitable from the temple AND provides the government system of Umbar as duumvirate: a Black Numenorian and a Corsair Lord ( Herumor and Fuinur example ).


It was very difficult to quote the stages of these realms as tribes, kingdoms and empires. Of course I got helped from lotr webpages to implement these with the right way, but finally I put them together in the consept as a personal comment.

Anyway the community waits for the next update an it seems to continue for a while. I wanted to evaluate this time as different approachings to the planned ideas. Also this was my first consept in this forum. I assume that there are really good members to check every new messages and proposals. Just they might give their opinion about this consept.