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Strengthening of faction leaders

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Walküre:
The community asking for a mount was actually one of the first major threads that arose in the forum, at the dawn of the very English forum. A very in-depth discussion and among the most popular ones hitherto debated. That doesn't mean, of course, that new suggestions cannot be brought to the general attention, since any refreshing idea is more than welcome here, but people's will should be taken into consideration, too, and equally respected. On par with lengthy disquisitions about the lore or gameplay mechanics, a widely-recognised popular support was also a significant drive for the old proposal to be finally accepted, not before having gone through every single detail and hue, though. Prior to community support comes the due discussing of concepts.

Ergo: I suppose that retaining the mount and implementing additional effects could rightly be a just compromise that saves both the past and the present. In particular, expanding the role of the Ring of Air does sound as an interesting point to start from. Vilya was primarily meant for support and preservation; there might be the proper scope for endowing the Ring with something else than the hero's defence (which was a great improvement already, at the time).

Seleukos I.:
I for my part really like the idea of making Elrond work together with the new central spell as Smeargollum suggested. This would make the centralspell mutch more interesting and more dynamic.

--- Zitat ---Elronds mount was added because the community wished for it.
--- Ende Zitat ---
I wasn't aware of this, but I can understand the decision of the team.


--- Zitat ---Indeed and it is nice to have, which is why in my proposal I mentioned adding it as an active aspect of his Leadership to retain it.

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If the mount will stay in the game, this would be the best solutionn, I think.

regardes
Seleukos I.

Smeargollum:
Thank you all for replaying!
I personly can't think about a lore- or a realy good gameplayreason to give Elrond that mount.
Lore:
In "The Hobbit" Elrond is just sitting in Rivendel and gives advises.
In "The Lord of the Rings" Elrond is also in Rivendel and heals Frodo made a nice party and there was this big council and he send the felowship of the ring with Frodo. Later he send the Twins to war but Elrond stayed in Rivendel.
In the "Simarilon" he was the lord of Imladris while Sauron prevailed about the rest of Middle-Earth. In this time it could be that he ride on his horse in a battle but we don't know.
Also we know that he was the herald of Gil-Galad but theirhe was proboably also as an
infantry soldier.
In the movies he ride one time in the Hobbit but that was just a short film-cutting.
So from lore I can't think of a reason.
Gameplay:
I think that Imladris had already Arwen and Glorefindel as cav-heros and also very powerful elit cav. So I don't think that also Elrond must be able to ride but if you want a third riding hero why not giving a mount ability to the Twins?
But neverless I would love to read the tread of giving Elrond the mount. Can mayby someone send me the link to that topik, please?


--- Zitat ---Indeed and it is nice to have, which is why in my proposal I mentioned adding it as an active aspect of his Leadership to retain it.
--- Ende Zitat ---
But if you all want to have the mount ability I would also like that idea.
And please can you write what you think of the roots of my suggestion because I would like to know if you all think taht this would be bad or if you think that it would be nice but the mount if better.

Best regards
Smeargollum

SP19XX:

--- Zitat von: Smeargollum am 20. Sep 2018, 18:15 ---Thank you all for replaying!
I personly can't think about a lore- or a realy good gameplayreason to give Elrond that mount.
Lore:
In "The Hobbit" Elrond is just sitting in Rivendel and gives advises.
In "The Lord of the Rings" Elrond is also in Rivendel and heals Frodo made a nice party and there was this big council and he send the felowship of the ring with Frodo. Later he send the Twins to war but Elrond stayed in Rivendel.
In the "Simarilon" he was the lord of Imladris while Sauron prevailed about the rest of Middle-Earth. In this time it could be that he ride on his horse in a battle but we don't know.
Also we know that he was the herald of Gil-Galad but theirhe was proboably also as an
infantry soldier.
In the movies he ride one time in the Hobbit but that was just a short film-cutting.
So from lore I can't think of a reason.
Gameplay:
I think that Imladris had already Arwen and Glorefindel as cav-heros and also very powerful elit cav. So I don't think that also Elrond must be able to ride but if you want a third riding hero why not giving a mount ability to the Twins?
But neverless I would love to read the tread of giving Elrond the mount. Can mayby someone send me the link to that topik, please?


--- Zitat ---Indeed and it is nice to have, which is why in my proposal I mentioned adding it as an active aspect of his Leadership to retain it.
--- Ende Zitat ---
But if you all want to have the mount ability I would also like that idea.
And please can you write what you think of the roots of my suggestion because I would like to know if you all think taht this would be bad or if you think that it would be nice but the mount if better.

Best regards
Smeargollum

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The main part you also need to consider though is tyat in Imladris only Elrond and Cirdan provide leadership bonuses, with the primary part of it being with Elrond. In a faction designed to balance it's cavalry with infantry, having no hero capable of providing that actually hinders that side of it, from a gameplay perspective imo. When we consider all other factions with a cavalry base underlying it, all of them have this in a fashion;
Gondor: Faramir, Imrahil, Aragorn (to a degree).
Rohan: Eomer, Theoden, Hama (to a degree).
Iron Hills: Dain Ironfoot, Dain's Messenger (forgot his name).
Lothlorien: Thranduil

Or counter based leaderships;
Angmar: The Witch King
Mordor: All Nazgul
Isengard: Sharku (via Howl Boost).

Without it this leaves Imladris as the only faction without this option.

Seleukos I.:
Well, Arwen has her banner, whitch is kind of a healing-leadership and she can make enemies run away, whitch also can be used a in supportive way.
But basicly you are right and I for my part would be fine with Elrond keeping his mount (by adding it to his leadership, as you suggested) and getting the ability Smeargollum suggested.
I hope you can understand what I'm trying to tell you (bad english :D)

regardes
Seleukos I.

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