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IronSkye:

--- Zitat von: Elite KryPtik am  8. Dez 2015, 08:25 ---Had a 1v1 with a friend, was teaching him how to play. He got the Ring and completely turned the match around, which is fine. However, 1 of Blessed Galadriels powers is absolutely OP. Memory of The Trees(or whatever its real name is) does absurd amounts of damage to heroes. It will bring any hero from full health to like 20%. I'm attaching the replay so people can see this in action. Combined with the incredibly long stun duration of the ability, its basically instant death for all enemy heroes in a medium radius. Additionally, I don't have a problem with how long the invulnerability lasts, but I think the radius is too wide, it shouldn't be much more than Galadriel without the Ring.

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Sorry, I am against your suggestion.
The stun isn't too long and the damage is only in a small area around her.
When I played last time I haven't noticed that the damage was really high (at least it doesn't deal 80%  of heroes life as damage, have you used only early heroes?).

The invulnerability power should be strong, because she really needs it.
And the long CD works perfectly for balance, there is no need to change something.

Please test her in further games.
br Sky

 

Elite KryPtik:
Did you actually watch the replay? I have proof sitting in that replay of how strong the damage is. As I said, I have no problem with the length of the invincibility, just the ridiculous radius it works at. I'm talking about Blessed Galadriel, who rejected the Ring, not her basic invulnerability.

Odysseus:
I don't think Ring Heroes were ever designed or ever truly will be balanced. I think they are meant to secure you the victory, with bizarrely OP powers. I'll watch the replay, but with this in mind. I generally don't like abilities that kill a hero instantly. Point and kill abilities are generally pretty unfair. I remember suggesting that nerf to Hawk Strike and eventually it did happen, so let's see if that power might need it too :)

Elite KryPtik:
Well it wouldn't even be so bad if it was just a single hero, but this can literally wipe out all your heroes. I crippled her with lurtz, rushed my heroes in to kill her asap, and suddenly they all just die. Also, I'm aware that Ring Heroes aren't meant to be balanced, but it seems to me unfair that some factions like Isengard, Mordor and Lorien have such crazy OP Ring Heroes compared to other factions. At least they should all be equally OP.

CragLord:

--- Zitat von: Elite KryPtik am  8. Dez 2015, 15:30 ---Well it wouldn't even be so bad if it was just a single hero, but this can literally wipe out all your heroes. I crippled her with lurtz, rushed my heroes in to kill her asap, and suddenly they all just die. Also, I'm aware that Ring Heroes aren't meant to be balanced, but it seems to me unfair that some factions like Isengard, Mordor and Lorien have such crazy OP Ring Heroes compared to other factions. At least they should all be equally OP.

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Yes Elite, but you should understand this ability in usage terms in current shape.
You can say it is OP in your opinion, but also you shouldn't do that hero rush on her. I meant, it is powerful ability, sincerely I don't know about radius of it, but damage is ok in my opinion. Also, she is really weak after she used that spell in offensive way.
So in one hand this is protection mechanism on Blessed form so you can't do what you tried, to instantly destroy her. I know it is also powerful offensive stuff, but simply I like ability, and I think it is on its place from view that she has protection mechanism against that hero rush on her. Beside this, Blessed form is completely supportive and her regular attack damage on heroes is very low, I would say it is joke.
So next time don't try that instant hero rush on her, don't concentrate all heroes around her. ;)
Some other way is needed for killing her, and I really agree about that, maybe not so much in balance terms, but from lore and lore's consistency facts, she as holy being probably had power to do that.

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